Hi Allen, I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
While it's true that items technically received a vote, the core concern of the article was not the absence of voting. As the transcript and firsthand accounts show, microphones were abused, during key moments, points of order were dismissed, and delegates were denied the chance to debate or amend the rules before being locked into an unverifiable clicker system.
Respectfully, saying “the convention spoke clearly” assumes the process allowed them to speak at all. When the method of voting can’t be independently verified and opposition voices are silenced or cut off, the legitimacy of the outcome - no matter how well-intended - is undermined.
Also, I want to clarify that while I did participate, the reporting is grounded in transcribed evidence, direct quotes, and verifiable events. Disagreement is welcome, but dismissing concerns as mere disgruntlement risks ignoring the genuine breakdown in party trust that many delegates experienced firsthand.
Thanks again for engaging. Transparency matters, and so does this discussion.
Things should have been run better but the issues got a vote and the convention spoke clearly for each item. Their will was made known. I wish it was done better with more time given to discuss but you can't argue that things were rammed down people's throats like a decade ago when the real establishment and lobbiests were in control.
This review is written by a disgruntled participant not an unbiased observer.
And disappointed we should all be to continue to work for better. But recognizing the progress we have made is important. We have had several grassroots friendly chairman and many grassroots officers. There acrimony will not advance our cause.
Operative word: your cause. Unity is as unity does. Robert's Rules were violated, 1st amendment was violated, Trump's call for paper ballots was ignored. It's unlikely that there will be a uniting with this much malfeasance. Your side should have been BETTER and not corrupt, slithering snakes.
My side? You assume too much. I'm about making the Republican Party better. Holding them to their founding principles. There will always be failures as long as people, not angels, run things. Idealism will kill us all. Just like the idealism of the left is killing them with mouthpieces like AOC or Mamdami. I'm not saying sit down and shut up. I'm saying keep pushing for truth and what is right but stop whining and fussing like a child. You have every cause to be angry but bluster will not move us forward. Speaking the truth, making allies of good people, recruiting solid people with souls (who will never be attracted to your rage) and informing voters is what is going to change things.
By the look of the voting you are relegating likely half the delegates to slithering snakes. NOT HELPFUL!
Hi Allen, I appreciate you taking the time to comment.
While it's true that items technically received a vote, the core concern of the article was not the absence of voting. As the transcript and firsthand accounts show, microphones were abused, during key moments, points of order were dismissed, and delegates were denied the chance to debate or amend the rules before being locked into an unverifiable clicker system.
Respectfully, saying “the convention spoke clearly” assumes the process allowed them to speak at all. When the method of voting can’t be independently verified and opposition voices are silenced or cut off, the legitimacy of the outcome - no matter how well-intended - is undermined.
Also, I want to clarify that while I did participate, the reporting is grounded in transcribed evidence, direct quotes, and verifiable events. Disagreement is welcome, but dismissing concerns as mere disgruntlement risks ignoring the genuine breakdown in party trust that many delegates experienced firsthand.
Thanks again for engaging. Transparency matters, and so does this discussion.
- Jeremy
Editor, CobbProb
Things should have been run better but the issues got a vote and the convention spoke clearly for each item. Their will was made known. I wish it was done better with more time given to discuss but you can't argue that things were rammed down people's throats like a decade ago when the real establishment and lobbiests were in control.
This review is written by a disgruntled participant not an unbiased observer.
It was poorly run. Democrat tactics were used. Highly disappointed!
And disappointed we should all be to continue to work for better. But recognizing the progress we have made is important. We have had several grassroots friendly chairman and many grassroots officers. There acrimony will not advance our cause.
Operative word: your cause. Unity is as unity does. Robert's Rules were violated, 1st amendment was violated, Trump's call for paper ballots was ignored. It's unlikely that there will be a uniting with this much malfeasance. Your side should have been BETTER and not corrupt, slithering snakes.
My side? You assume too much. I'm about making the Republican Party better. Holding them to their founding principles. There will always be failures as long as people, not angels, run things. Idealism will kill us all. Just like the idealism of the left is killing them with mouthpieces like AOC or Mamdami. I'm not saying sit down and shut up. I'm saying keep pushing for truth and what is right but stop whining and fussing like a child. You have every cause to be angry but bluster will not move us forward. Speaking the truth, making allies of good people, recruiting solid people with souls (who will never be attracted to your rage) and informing voters is what is going to change things.
By the look of the voting you are relegating likely half the delegates to slithering snakes. NOT HELPFUL!
No rage. Just facts. You sound more rageful and blustering than I, sir.